Pregnancy Massage Survey - massage and bodywork professionals2024-03-28T21:58:29Zhttps://massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A72769&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI took the survey. I think th…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-08-06:2887274:Comment:978962010-08-06T01:20:05.943ZDaniel Cohenhttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/DanielCohen
I took the survey. I think the questions were well stated and useful. I am glad you asked about first trimester. From what clients tell me I am the only one in my immediate area that will do massage for first trimester. All of the Asian modalities I have studied included first trimester bodywork. Modst of the Western style warned against it. Different ways of approaching it and different professional concerns..
I took the survey. I think the questions were well stated and useful. I am glad you asked about first trimester. From what clients tell me I am the only one in my immediate area that will do massage for first trimester. All of the Asian modalities I have studied included first trimester bodywork. Modst of the Western style warned against it. Different ways of approaching it and different professional concerns.. Susan, any pointers as to whe…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-08-05:2887274:Comment:975852010-08-05T18:01:58.379ZDeborah Stevenshttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/DeborahStevens
Susan, any pointers as to where to find good, current info on massage in the first trimester? Is your project in the public domain? TIA.
Susan, any pointers as to where to find good, current info on massage in the first trimester? Is your project in the public domain? TIA. Rick, I am new to this forum…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-08-05:2887274:Comment:975682010-08-05T15:13:41.301ZDeborah Stevenshttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/DeborahStevens
Rick, I am new to this forum and finding the survey itself but not the results--where can I see the results? TIA.
Rick, I am new to this forum and finding the survey itself but not the results--where can I see the results? TIA. Hey Rick -
This is brilliant,…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-04-04:2887274:Comment:756682010-04-04T14:18:15.934ZVladhttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/Vlad
Hey Rick -<br />
This is brilliant, man.<br />
I've been popping on here just waiting on your survey results. Why? Because I've wondered about so many things that were on the survey. It'll be interesting to see what the results show even though it's a small sample.
Hey Rick -<br />
This is brilliant, man.<br />
I've been popping on here just waiting on your survey results. Why? Because I've wondered about so many things that were on the survey. It'll be interesting to see what the results show even though it's a small sample. Thanks, Rick!
Rick Morgan sa…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-04-03:2887274:Comment:756342010-04-03T20:04:36.125ZMike Hinklehttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/MikeHinkle
Thanks, Rick!<br />
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<cite>Rick Morgan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?page=3&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A75632&x=1#2887274Comment75632"><div>Thank you!!!<br></br>Round one of the survey is complete and we downloaded the data from the first 100 participants. If you haven't done the survey and want to, please do so. We will be doing another analysis after we reach a larger milestone to validate the results from the first…</div>
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Thanks, Rick!<br />
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<cite>Rick Morgan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?page=3&commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A75632&x=1#2887274Comment75632"><div>Thank you!!!<br/>Round one of the survey is complete and we downloaded the data from the first 100 participants. If you haven't done the survey and want to, please do so. We will be doing another analysis after we reach a larger milestone to validate the results from the first 100. Thank you all for helping us get this done. It will take a few days to a week before the initial analysis is complete and then when we have done the detailed analysis we will publish a paper on the results. I will post a link on this forum for all those interested in the results.</div>
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<cite>Robin Byler Thomas said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A72618&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment72618"><div>Great way of handling mentoring Rebecca. How long will their internships last?</div>
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My initial approach is to have them complete 25 sessions, at whatever pace they desire.
<cite>Robin Byler Thomas said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A72618&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment72618"><div>Great way of handling mentoring Rebecca. How long will their internships last?</div>
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My initial approach is to have them complete 25 sessions, at whatever pace they desire. Great way of handling mentori…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-03-16:2887274:Comment:726182010-03-16T20:51:04.436ZRobin Byler Thomashttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/RobinBylerThomas
Great way of handling mentoring Rebecca. How long will their internships last?
Great way of handling mentoring Rebecca. How long will their internships last? Rebecca,
I love the idea of…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-03-16:2887274:Comment:725132010-03-16T16:09:02.792ZSusan G. Salvohttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/SusanGSalvo
Rebecca,<br />
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I love the idea of mentoring. I wish more therapists who possess specialized skills would do it.<br />
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Good luck with your program.<br />
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<cite>Rebecca Overson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A72503&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment72503"><div>That's a great quote, Susan!<br></br><br></br>I have just launched an internship program at my Center. I have four interns, all whom have taken a 24-36…</div>
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Rebecca,<br />
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I love the idea of mentoring. I wish more therapists who possess specialized skills would do it.<br />
<br />
Good luck with your program.<br />
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<cite>Rebecca Overson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A72503&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment72503"><div>That's a great quote, Susan!<br/><br/>I have just launched an internship program at my Center. I have four interns, all whom have taken a 24-36 hour course in prenatal massage, who will be working on pregnant clients under my supervision (mentorship). They are all looking forward to getting started. I will offer intern sessions at half my normal rate, so this will also be a nice thing for those who may not otherwise "afford" massage therapy during pregnancy.<br/><br/>To me, an internship/mentorship would have been so helpful - in ANY aspect of massage therapy - so I'm hoping increased confidence will be the outcome of this program!<br/><br/><cite>Susan G. Salvo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A72417&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment70856"><div>AAHHHH, the question of confidence…<br/><br/>I struggled with this one as a student, then as a therapist, and now as an educator trying to instill confidence in my students.<br/><br/>In my humble opinion, confidence takes time.<br/><br/>No amount of hours in class will give it to you.<br/><br/>I wish it were that easy.<br/><br/>One of my instructors, Carol Kresge, said in class, “You know, it took me one year to build a clientele but 4 years to know what I was doing.” I jotted it down and read it often<br/><br/><br/><cite>Rebecca Overson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A70761&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment70747"><div><cite>Susan G. Salvo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A70706&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment70706"><div>How many hours of pregnancy massage do you recommend schools teach?<br/><br/>Pregnancy massage is included in most, if not all, entry level massage textbooks.<br/><br/>And pregnant clients do come through our student clinics. I'm sure that is true for most schools.<br/><br/>Pregnancy is regarded as a normal life stage and not a pathologic condition (unless abnormalities exist and then modifications are needed as they are with ANY client, pregnant or not).<br/><br/>Does anyone feel that therapists should avoid pregnant women unless post-graduate hours are obtained?</div>
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<br/>My response on Rick's survey was that I don't think most massage therapists can safely and <i>confidently</i> work on pregnant women without more than 2 hours of training (in my school's case) - unless the mom and babe are healthy and there are no other medical or special considerations. With some of the things I see on intake forms with my clients (who are all pregnant) I would be really nervous thinking that these women might find their way into a student clinic and a therapist would just move ahead doing massage in instances where they really ought to have medical clearance from the woman's care provider.<br/><br/>Now, granted, those are the exceptions, but when you work with pregnant women exclusively, you see all kinds of things :) Unless a student is well-versed in pregnancy, they may not know what to look for or what the meaning of certain terms are and may not have the confidence to ask or to tell a client who is standing there, ready for a massage, that they have a condition where it's actually not safe to proceed.<br/><br/>Again, that's going to be the exception, not the rule.<br/><br/>I think any massage therapist without extensive training will not likely seek out or feel comfortable working on pregnant women all the time, and will proceed with caution if they face a situation they are not confident with, which is prudent.</div>
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</blockquote> That's a great quote, Susan!…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-03-16:2887274:Comment:725032010-03-16T15:40:05.372ZRebecca Oversonhttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/RebeccaOverson
That's a great quote, Susan!<br />
<br />
I have just launched an internship program at my Center. I have four interns, all whom have taken a 24-36 hour course in prenatal massage, who will be working on pregnant clients under my supervision (mentorship). They are all looking forward to getting started. I will offer intern sessions at half my normal rate, so this will also be a nice thing for those who may not otherwise "afford" massage therapy during pregnancy.<br />
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To me, an internship/mentorship would have…
That's a great quote, Susan!<br />
<br />
I have just launched an internship program at my Center. I have four interns, all whom have taken a 24-36 hour course in prenatal massage, who will be working on pregnant clients under my supervision (mentorship). They are all looking forward to getting started. I will offer intern sessions at half my normal rate, so this will also be a nice thing for those who may not otherwise "afford" massage therapy during pregnancy.<br />
<br />
To me, an internship/mentorship would have been so helpful - in ANY aspect of massage therapy - so I'm hoping increased confidence will be the outcome of this program!<br />
<br />
<cite>Susan G. Salvo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A72417&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment70856"><div>AAHHHH, the question of confidence…<br/> <br/>
I struggled with this one as a student, then as a therapist, and now as an educator trying to instill confidence in my students.<br/>
<br/>
In my humble opinion, confidence takes time.<br/>
<br/>
No amount of hours in class will give it to you.<br/>
<br/>
I wish it were that easy.<br/>
<br/>
One of my instructors, Carol Kresge, said in class, “You know, it took me one year to build a clientele but 4 years to know what I was doing.” I jotted it down and read it often<br/>
<br/>
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<cite>Rebecca Overson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A70761&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment70747"><div><cite>Susan G. Salvo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A70706&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment70706"><div>How many hours of pregnancy massage do you recommend schools teach?<br/><br/>Pregnancy massage is included in most, if not all, entry level massage textbooks.<br/><br/>And pregnant clients do come through our student clinics. I'm sure that is true for most schools.<br/><br/>Pregnancy is regarded as a normal life stage and not a pathologic condition (unless abnormalities exist and then modifications are needed as they are with ANY client, pregnant or not).<br/><br/>Does anyone feel that therapists should avoid pregnant women unless post-graduate hours are obtained?</div>
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<br/>My response on Rick's survey was that I don't think most massage therapists can safely and <i>confidently</i> work on pregnant women without more than 2 hours of training (in my school's case) - unless the mom and babe are healthy and there are no other medical or special considerations. With some of the things I see on intake forms with my clients (who are all pregnant) I would be really nervous thinking that these women might find their way into a student clinic and a therapist would just move ahead doing massage in instances where they really ought to have medical clearance from the woman's care provider.<br/><br/>Now, granted, those are the exceptions, but when you work with pregnant women exclusively, you see all kinds of things :) Unless a student is well-versed in pregnancy, they may not know what to look for or what the meaning of certain terms are and may not have the confidence to ask or to tell a client who is standing there, ready for a massage, that they have a condition where it's actually not safe to proceed.<br/><br/>Again, that's going to be the exception, not the rule.<br/><br/>I think any massage therapist without extensive training will not likely seek out or feel comfortable working on pregnant women all the time, and will proceed with caution if they face a situation they are not confident with, which is prudent.</div>
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</blockquote> AAHHHH, the question of confi…tag:massageprofessionals.com,2010-03-09:2887274:Comment:708562010-03-09T12:47:31.235ZSusan G. Salvohttps://massageprofessionals.com/profile/SusanGSalvo
AAHHHH, the question of confidence…<br />
<br />
I struggled with this one as a student, then as a therapist, and now as an educator trying to instill confidence in my students.<br />
<br />
In my humble opinion, confidence takes time.<br />
<br />
No amount of hours in class will give it to you.<br />
<br />
I wish it were that easy.<br />
<br />
One of my instructors, Carol Kresge, said in class, “You know, it took me one year to build a clientele but 4 years to know what I was doing.” I jotted it down and read it often<br />
<br />
<br />
<cite>Rebecca Overson…</cite>
AAHHHH, the question of confidence…<br />
<br />
I struggled with this one as a student, then as a therapist, and now as an educator trying to instill confidence in my students.<br />
<br />
In my humble opinion, confidence takes time.<br />
<br />
No amount of hours in class will give it to you.<br />
<br />
I wish it were that easy.<br />
<br />
One of my instructors, Carol Kresge, said in class, “You know, it took me one year to build a clientele but 4 years to know what I was doing.” I jotted it down and read it often<br />
<br />
<br />
<cite>Rebecca Overson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A70761&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment70747"><div><cite>Susan G. Salvo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.massageprofessionals.com/forum/topics/pregnancy-massage-survey?commentId=2887274%3AComment%3A70706&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2887274Comment70706"><div>How many hours of pregnancy massage do you recommend schools teach?<br/><br/>Pregnancy massage is included in most, if not all, entry level massage textbooks.<br/><br/>And pregnant clients do come through our student clinics. I'm sure that is true for most schools.<br/><br/>Pregnancy is regarded as a normal life stage and not a pathologic condition (unless abnormalities exist and then modifications are needed as they are with ANY client, pregnant or not).<br/><br/>Does anyone feel that therapists should avoid pregnant women unless post-graduate hours are obtained?</div>
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<br/>My response on Rick's survey was that I don't think most massage therapists can safely and <i>confidently</i> work on pregnant women without more than 2 hours of training (in my school's case) - unless the mom and babe are healthy and there are no other medical or special considerations. With some of the things I see on intake forms with my clients (who are all pregnant) I would be really nervous thinking that these women might find their way into a student clinic and a therapist would just move ahead doing massage in instances where they really ought to have medical clearance from the woman's care provider.<br/><br/>Now, granted, those are the exceptions, but when you work with pregnant women exclusively, you see all kinds of things :) Unless a student is well-versed in pregnancy, they may not know what to look for or what the meaning of certain terms are and may not have the confidence to ask or to tell a client who is standing there, ready for a massage, that they have a condition where it's actually not safe to proceed.<br/><br/>Again, that's going to be the exception, not the rule.<br/><br/>I think any massage therapist without extensive training will not likely seek out or feel comfortable working on pregnant women all the time, and will proceed with caution if they face a situation they are not confident with, which is prudent.</div>
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