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Talk about issues related to work with clients in the perinatal cycle. Resources, concerns, unusual situations, contraindication myths.
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Started by leslie stager Mar 19, 2012.
Started by Katherine Anderson. Last reply by Rebecca Overson May 3, 2011.
Started by leslie stager Mar 19, 2011.
I am in the market for prenatal cushions for some of my clients. At the prior spa I worked for they had in house the pregnancy pillow maternity cushion bolster set. I am wondering if that is the best for all of my clients. I noticed as the baby grew it was more difficult for my clients to find comfort in this system. It was a great system for the new pregnant Mom's. I see that Oakworks makes a cushion system for side lying and the lists continues from other companies. What is everyone using now a days for pregnancy support cushions?
Hi Laura. I do trigger point work on pregnant women. You have to assess if the client is healthy or not so healthy. I mean if she has a history of miscarriages and or super unhealthy looking, maybe not. But she sounds fine because she is already using a tennis ball. You can certainly work her upper back, neck, hips and legs. No deep work on the lower back or abdominal area maybe.
HI Laura, There may be concern with deep work if someone has had multiple miscarriages and is still earlier than 20 weeks gestation or so. Has there been an association of deep or TP work with miscarriage? Not that I've ever found, however, I do know of women who have wondered about it when they miscarried after deep work. I suggest avoiding the concern by doing more supportive work and less intensive release work until past that time. (note, that does not mean don't do any deep work at all)
Because the body is changing so much, and relaxin is in effect in all the ligaments, I would avoid a Full Body approach with TP, deep tissue, or Structural Integration type work... Too much can simply be Too much during pregnancy when so much is being formed, integrated, and generated...too much can destabilize and have painful backlash. Otherwise, not in high risk category, or beyond that high risk miscarriage time... I'd say go for it with focused TP work.!
Hi! I have a new client who is 20 weeks with myofascial pain syndrome. She is looking to have trigger point therapy done. I do both pre-natal and trp work but not together. Any advice? She uses a tennis ball daily and says she has been getting trigger points released. My inclination is to only do light trigger point work.
Yes.. What I find is that many students try to use puffy type pillows , with lots of loft. They end up falling off the table, or legs fall off because they are too bouncy. WHen I say Flat, I mean ... well, like a dead pillow!.. the ones that are squished down and solid so that you can layer them, and they won't go anywhere!
Thank you for the clarification, semi-supine is exactly what I was meaning. In my head it just registers as supine, pregnancy style hehe. I am assuming that when you refer to using 3 flat pillows you're meaning them to be pretty flat? The one's I've got have some good life to them & if I used 3 of them her knee would be well above proper alignment. Just for clarity.
HI there! I'm a former labor and delivery nurse and developer/ instructor of 60-hour MotherTouch Maternity Massage certification program. Also author of the textbook Nurturing Massage for Pregnancy, published in 2008 by Lippincott. I"d like to add to the discussion a few considerations and a clarification.
Supine positioning is generally considered to be lying on your back (on your Spine - supine). After 2nd trimester, no pregnant clients should be supine for long due to potential for compression on the vena cava/aorta. Not to pick beans, but sounds like you are referring to semi-reclining or semi-fowlers position! Sometimes called Semi-supine. Usually about 45 degree angle of support. This prevents compression on those big blood vessels.
Pillows: PErsonally, I love the bodysupport system body cushion for all clients, pregnant or not. It offers great support for sidelying preventing compression on the shoulder plexus, supports under the belly to prevent strain on uterine broad ligament, lengthens the lumbar curve in prone positioning, has recesses for breasts and bellies when in prone position, folds up to be supportive for semi-reclining, and opens the chest and shoulders in supine position. The bolster is solid and I only need 1-2 flat pillows on top of that for sidelying leg support. It eliminates alot of pillow shuffling!
However, I teach the use of pillows for students who do not have the body cushion. I work primarily in sidelying because it is awesome, comfortable, relaxing and gives great access to the whole body. I like it also for all clients pregnant or not!
Sidelying: 1 pillow under head, keeping cervical spine straight. 1 wedge under larger belly. Usually 3 Flat pillows under the legs, to ensure that the knee and trochanter are aligned, so that lateral hip rotators are in neutral, 1 pillow under the arm to prevent breast compression (over the sheet, that helps secure the sheet draping. )This is all demonstrated in my Mastering Pregnancy Massage DVD--3 hours of detailed instruction!
Lastly.. if you are on Linked In, there are a bunch of massage groups that have been having some interesting discussions about pregnancy massage.
I am a pre-natal massage specialist in NH and formerly in IL. What I tend to do is just use 2 regular pillows & 1 body pillow. I fold over the bodypillow (so it looks like 2 pillows stacked on top of each other), then I put one regular pillow on top of that & the other pillow at an angle in front of it, then I cover everything with a sheet & dress the table like normal. Doing this I am almost always able to work on a pregnant woman supine for the first part of the massage & get to arms & legs easily. After that I pull the pillows out (using good communication with the client of course) & place a regular pillow under their head & have them flip on their side. I then hand the body pillow to them under the top sheet for them to place between their knees & rest their arm & belly on. After I get done with that side I have them flip to the other side. It works really well. But every woman is different. During early term they can usually lay flat on their back & sometimes their stomach, it's just everyone's comfort level. Communication will be your best technique :)
Laura - I only use pillows to accomplish everything I need with prenatal clients. My certification came through Claire Marie Miller and she does 80% side lying. Be sure to remember that every client is different and each trimester is different. So, what might be comfortable early in pregnancy doesn't work later.
I would suggest offering a few complimentary sessions to pregnant mothers and get their feedback. It's even better if you can find ones that have previously received prenatal sessions and have something to compare it against.
I'm not on this site too often, so feel free to follow up with me on my business page - Charm City Massage. Hope this helps!
Just took CEU training for pregnancy massage. Just curious how many of you use pregnancy wedge and the client supine? The class I took only demonstrated back in the side lying position but every other prenatal therapist I spoke with tell me they do everything side lying.
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