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The purpose of this group is to network and share information regarding neuroscience and massage therapy.

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Principals for Massage and Bodywork 3 Replies

  When we ask the question "How does bodywork actually change the condition?" the answer  to me is not much. It is the response of the client that truly changes the condition, not the the therapist.…Continue

Started by Damian Matthews. Last reply by Gary W Addis, LMT Oct 8, 2012.

The Brain That Changes Itself (book by Norman Doidge) 2 Replies

This book explores and explains neuroplasticity, its history, case studies, ongoing research, revolutionary therapies, and some of the incredible implications of neuroplasticity in the future. Though…Continue

Tags: doidge, massage, therapy, book, CNS

Started by Jason Erickson. Last reply by Stephen Jeffrey Aug 1, 2011.

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Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on October 24, 2012 at 5:17pm

Sleep is a major factor in chronic pain. Check out this excellent presentation.

Myths and Facts about Sleep and Chronic Pain
Dr. Fleming reviews a variety of studies addressing the intricate, reciprocal relationship between pain and disturbed sleep. He also discusses the bio-psycho-social interventions that have been shown to be effective in modulating pain and improving sleep. Thankyou Bodhi

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on October 22, 2012 at 4:31pm

http://www.bettermovement.org/2012/review-of-moseley-hodges-talk-pa...

Neuro tags, trying to understand how some neurons may become disinhibited = function incorrectly = pain.

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on October 20, 2012 at 4:31am

http://bodyinmind.org/resources/journal-articles/

Researching the role of the mind and the brain in chronic pain.

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on October 20, 2012 at 4:29am

Hi Gordon, 

I call Triggerpoints =  tender points (again to avoid argument )

I also have a big ? question mark regarding the work that I do " working the way" that I think it does. Why?  because with the massage I do, I have always been technique (tendon muscle fascia ligiment ) and outcome (client feels better ) focused. Now I am looking for explanations via neuroscience and very much enjoying the learning experience. 

   

Comment by Gordon J. Wallis on October 19, 2012 at 10:11pm

Sorry you guys...I re read my comment...I drank a beer before my comment..so I left out some words, said work instead of word..lol...  Anyway, hope everyone had a good day.

Comment by Gordon J. Wallis on October 19, 2012 at 7:57pm

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.sturt/health/pain.htm

Many things contribute to a persons pain..Even culture...I always try to get the placebo effect on my side by showing my new clients a letter from a doctor that says I cured him of his back pain...I can see the client relax when see that letter...It helps make my work very effective....And I have accidentally    created a nocebo effect a few times ...Not a good thing.   And Gary, I dont use the work trigger point as much now...Because people start arguing about them... So I call them sore spots now.  

Comment by Gary W Addis, LMT on October 19, 2012 at 4:45pm

Dr Thacker's lecture concerned spinal problems more so than myofascial problems, I think.  And even the AMA points out that about 90% of back pain stems from muscle issues, not spine or nerves at the spinal level. 

But, yeah, I can see the point he makes, that immune system may factor in all pain issues-- it sure does in my rheumatoid arthritis. 

Comment by Gary W Addis, LMT on October 19, 2012 at 4:39pm

Stephen, something I picked up a year or so ago from a mention in Niel-Asher's Concise Book of Trigger Point Therapy is that inactive trigger points (no local pain when  pressured) can nevertheless cause the entire muscle to be rock hard and sore (after-a-workout sore)  rather than tender in a specific spot.  So, when I find hypertonia in a muscle, I find its hardest part, and use TP pressure on it till it relaxes, and when that spot relaxes the entire muscle relaxes.  The pressure used doesn't elicit client pain response, and it usually relaxes within a few seconds.

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on October 19, 2012 at 1:05pm

http://www.csp.org.uk/news/2012/10/18/physiotherapy-2012-physios-ne...

Do MT's also need to understand more about pain and the nervous system ?

Comment by Stephen Jeffrey on October 19, 2012 at 1:04pm

Hi Gary

I too have found triggerpoint therapy very helpful in fact its been the number 1 method for me for many years. Now I'm trying to understand more about what is happening at a cellular level and in the nervous system that makes our techniques (not just triggerpoint work) so effective in the treatment of chronic pain.

 

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