Massage in a Chiropractic Setting

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Comment by Ivy Hultquist on November 3, 2009 at 8:17am

Hi Kellie! When writing a CE course I researched this topic a little. I was not able to find out how many MT's are working as CA's or CT's. However there are a couple of issues I did find as far as MT's crossing over as CA's.

A few states have started to license or register CA's and working within a MT's scope of practice becomes an issue for some practitioners.

The pay scale for a CA is considerably lower than a MT, but an experienced MT should be able to negotiate a higher salary if they are going to work as a CA and provide massage therapy.

In many offices CA's do a lot of clerical work, including billing and scheduling, along with other duties such as physiotherapy or x-ray development. Many MT's take jobs as a CA and find they are doing more clerical work and less massage therapy than expected.

I believe the CA field will grow and hopefully this will benefit MT's who are looking for jobs in a chiropractic setting.

Ivy Hultquist
Advanced Massage Techniques

Comment by Kellie White on November 3, 2009 at 7:26am

I was wondering if anyone knows how many massage therapists are working in chiropractic settings. Also, are massage therapists being cross trained as chiropractic assistants? Chiro assistant seems to be growing and I wondered if there was much or any crossover.

Comment by Ivy Hultquist on October 20, 2009 at 8:04am

Funny you should bring up Active Release Technique. I had a client in the other day who was undergoing ART right now. Has anyone here taken a course in ART?
Ivy Hultquist
Advanced Massage Techniques

Comment by Jeff Sims on October 20, 2009 at 2:09am

aloha everyone ~
i have worked with two well-trained, ethical and soft-tissue savvy DC's for six years with great success. both chiropractors are focused on rehabilitating patients (although there are some, of course, with structural abnormalities, e.g., ideopathic scoliosis, where we do our best). in addition to top chiropractic colleges they are also certified practitioners of active release technique, giving them great insight into soft tissue.
i show up with linens and oil, and he refers clients. i spend no time marketing or administrating. he employs a top administrator. all i have to do is focus on treating the patient, complementing his practice. i practice orthopedic massage, using myofascial release, neuromuscular therapy (including spray-n-stretch), cranio-sacral and numerous stretching techniques along with moist heat therapy and cryotherapy (ice). we also offer pilates and yoga private and couples classes for rehabilitation.

Comment by Gene Kuntz II on October 11, 2009 at 8:22pm

just wanted to let everyone know i appreciate the comments and i am working with someone who teaches insurance billing so I am excited to see what they have to say. the one thing she did tell me is that billing is all about the wording and tenacity.

Comment by Ivy Hultquist on October 11, 2009 at 12:53pm

Hi Everyone! So I was thinking today about a couple things. I would like your opinions on.

1. The proposed "Advanced Certification Exam" by the NCBTMB? Many of us in a chiropractic setting have special skills and work in a professional health care setting. What do you think about it and will you take it?

2. Other group discussions I belong to many have a very unfavorable view of working as a massage professional in a chiropractic clinic. I know there some people with poor experiences out there, but there can be some great partnerships formed. Massage professionals can be a great asset to a practice. So have any of you worked in more than one clinic? How long have your worked in the clinic you work in now?

Respond to one, both, or none. Just curious.

Ivy
I-O-W-A
Advanced Massage Techniques

Comment by Jim McKechnie on October 9, 2009 at 3:12pm

Greetings all:

I do not work for a chiropractor; I work in the massage room at Fairbanks Memorial Hospital. There we give staff and their families massages at a discounted rate. I also do comfort massages in the wing of the hospital where seniors and those unable to care for themselves live. Therefore, if my questions sound inane regarding Massage in Chiropractic, you'll understand why....

So...here goes. From an outsider looking in, it would seem to me that a short massage (say, 30 minutes) prior to an adjustment--would warm up the muscles around the area of treatment. And maybe right after the "bone crunch" followup with the other 30 minute massage to relax the muscles again. Of course, that would require seeing the patient twice which might be time consuming, but if ultimate patient satisfaction is the goal...it might be worth it.

Would something like that work?

I'm interested in work with chiropractors and that's the reason I joined this forum

Jim

Comment by Dayna Davis on October 9, 2009 at 10:52am

Hello everyone I am new to this group and to the massage therapy industry. I am a student and I plan to get my license early next year. I also have plans to work in a chiropractor clinic and I value anyone's experience that wishes to share. I look forward to talking with everyone. Dayna

Comment by Marilyn St.John on October 9, 2009 at 6:38am

Thanks for starting this group, Ivy! I'm in MI and have been with two great Palmer-trained chiropractors for over four years now. I love the diversity of client needs in this environment, which have enabled my skills as a therapist to grow. With reference to the 'before or after' discussion, I find people generally get an easier adjustment after I loosen them up; but I see several who need deeper work on the soft tissues (particularly adjacent to a joint) that I find is better facilitated by their having an adjustment first. I have been delighted to see just how much long-term relief somebody can have once the very deep structures can be addressed, although isolating them sometimes presents a challenge ;o}

Comment by Sara Hennefeld on October 7, 2009 at 2:24pm

I just recently started working for a chiropractor two months ago. It is becoming a very rewarding experience. Since I have started many of our patients agree that their adjustments and benifits are lasting longer. It has been wonderful to see the clients realize how much easier their adjustment go when they recieve massage before hand.

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